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Learning to hear God's voice changes everything.

First, and most important, it changes our relationship with God. Here's how John Eldredge says it...

Whatever our situation in life - butcher, baker, candlestick maker - our deepest and most pressing need is to learn to walk with God. To hear his voice. To follow him intimately. It is the most essential turn of events that could every take place in the life of any human being, for it brings us back to the source of life. Everything else we long for can then flow forth from this union. Walking With God, xi.

A second thing that changes is how we approach ministry or mission. As with Jesus, mission flows from listening. See Jn. 5:19.

See the short video below for my interview with my friend, Hugh Brandt, on this subject of learning to hear God's voice.

Share with us your comments on what Hugh has to say.

John

Great conference call last night!

Most of us know how to function in a traditional (spider) organization.

On the other hand, we are all new to this idea of a starfish organization. This is an organism that is decentralized but is held together by a common DNA. One connecting point is this blog. Last night we experienced another way of connecting through a conference call.

There were seven of us on the call. We represented MRTs in Colorado, New Mexico, California and (would you believe!) New Zealand. We had a great time sharing what we see God doing, what we are learning and video resources we have discovered about house churches. See below for some of the comments.

We're planning another call in a month. If you want to be notified about it, let me know.

John

Peg Batcheller (New Mexico).Thanks John, for the call last night. As I reflect on the call, I see this as a type of extra-regional MRT that could really be helpful to me, and hopefully to others. The stories from others were very helpful. Thanks. Hope to be able to talk again next month or so.

Noah Cremisino (The Denver Network sent Noah and Kate to New Zealand about 3 months ago). SOoooo good to hear your voice and join in on the conversation today!!!! I miss you as well. I'm so encouraged by what God is doing with us and what He's planning!! (Jesus Movement 2.0?)

John Parker (California). I loved the call!!! Thank you John White!!!

Here are 16 of the many great ideas we shared!

1. Laying pipe! God is building the infrastructure in prep for the great move coming!

2. Gestation = invisible growth (see #1)

3. Structure… tomato plant lattice…then the plant can climb! (see #1)

4. Knitting and Netting!

5. Story telling without perfection! Just get them published however you do and can!

6. Mistakes count as done. So do mistakes and leave ‘em with the Lord! J

7. Fullness of time 1. Jesus’ Day: Roman Roads, Greek Language, Jewish monotheism 2. Now: internet, phone conferencing, travel, Google.com/voice

8. Ross Rohde JesusVirus.org new blog

9. People coming out of traditional church we help them come into simple church!

10. How to start a meeting: Just ask for their spiritual journey story….

11. Wear God out! LOL! (importunity prayer of Luke 18) mix with Luke 10:2b (tend-to-be J) CO² prayer!

12. Spiritual moms and dads!

13. K.I.S.Saint!

14. grover@christianbody.com for communication resources.

15. Longest distance winner! Noah in New Zealand!

16. John W. noted an increasing percentage of women on the calls from 10 years ago@ PTL

17. Meet again in a month! Yahoo!

Daily Check in on First Five

As you know, we have two cohorts of MRTs this summer. I facilitate one and Hobby Chapin facilitates the other. One of the benefits of this is that each cohort can learn from the other. Hobby posted the following proposal to his cohort and I want to suggest that we also do what he is suggesting.

We want to propose a modification in the expectation of daily check ins on the blog posts. What we have proposed is that you spend your first five minutes on-line each day reading the post and interacting with the content and one another in the comment page. I realize that may be tough for some of you.

Our modified proposal is that you read daily. Continue to step into the practice of the first five. The modification is that you simply post, "I'm in." That way we feel one another's presence. If you have a comment, you are welcome to leave it. Then, we will ask that toward the end of the week you take time to reflect on the topic of the week by sharing a story or a question or an insight pertaining to our weeks posts. By the end of the week you will have checked in 5 times or so and hopefully commented once or twice.

So, let's practice. For this post, please do not comment more than these two words--but no less than these two words--"I'm in."

What does your MRT look like?

I'm thrilled that we will have MRTs in 15-20 different locations in two cohorts this summer! Each MRT is committed to the same core practices for three months but how they work out those practices will look different in each situation.

The MRT that I'm a part of here in Denver meets every Thursday from 9 to 11:30 am at the Sojourners' Coffee Shop. Each week, we check in with SASHET and talk about what God is saying about church planting in Denver. See the video below.

Other MRTs might connect via Skype. Or, they might meet in a home. It would help the rest of us if you could give us a picture of your MRT this summer. Who is in it? Where do you meet? What is your mission field? What's a sample of what you are learning?

You can write your description as a comment below. Or, you can send photos. Or, you can make a short video like we did. This is a community of practice and it's very helpful to see how each group is "practicing".

John

PS. In the video below, you will see that we had we had visitors on that morning. Kent Smith, representing the Abilene MRT, was with us. Also, Chadd Schroeder, representing the MRT in Guadalajara (and, a new by-faith MRT in Texas). To me this is a fore taste of the day when there are a thousand MRTs and you can visit one in any city in the world. How's that for faith!?

Rhythms, routines and practices (3)

One more post on this topic of spiritual practices. Why? Because this is a key concept for the Luke Ten Community and the MRT Experiments. We don't invite people to be committed merely to values. Rather we invite them to be committed to concrete practices that embody our values.

Alan Hirsch in The Forgotten Ways captures this way of thinking as he talked about his church in Australia. (p. 46-48)

We would not develop a philosophy of ministry per se, but rather a covenant and some core practices. Behind this thinking was the belief that when we talk about core values, the appeal is (only) to the head... What we wanted was to covenant ourselves to a set of practices that embodied the core value and demonstrated it. (Hirsch describes these practices as the DNA of the movement.)

Each group had to be engaged in a healthy diet of spiritual disciplines - the only way to grow in Christlikeness that we were aware of.

...the only other requirement to belong to the movement is that each group is covenanted to multiply itself as soon as it is organically feasible and possible. This ensures healthy multiplication and embeds and ongoing sense of mission.

This is exactly what the MRT 2.0 Experiment is about. A group of people committed to certain core practices for three months who share what they learn along the way. Thanks for being part of this community of practice!

Your thoughts on calling people to core practices?

John

Rhythms, routines and practices (2)

Today, I would like you to watch the short (4 minutes) video below. But, as you watch it, I would like you to think about Paul's words in 1 Tim. 4:7-8.

Train yourself for the purpose of godliness. Physical training has some value but godliness is profitable for all things (in all directions), since it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come.

The imperative "train yourself" in the Greek is gymnaze from which we get the word "gymnastics". No doubt Paul had in mind the rigorous training that a gymnast commits to when he exhorted Timothy to train himself for godliness. At the heart of this sort of training are specific routines and disciplines that the athlete engages in.

An MRT is two or more people (a team) who have God's heart for the expansion of His kingdom in a city or region. They are committed to spiritual training with a specific set of spiritual disciplines (see the MRT 2.0 Invitation).

*Intentionally paying attention to my heart and your heart daily is a spiritual discipline (see SASHET)

*Writing out my dialogue with God each day and sharing it with you is a spiritual discipline (see VIRKLER)

*Meeting each week with my MRT to listen to the Lord of the Harvest about church planting in my city is a spiritual discipline

*Reading this blog each day and responding is a spiritual discipline

*Investing financially in church planting is a spiritual discipline

What do you see in the video below that relates to spiritual disciplines?

John

Rhythms, routines and practices (1)

John Grisham's goal: to write a page every day.

The best-selling novelist began this routine while he was still practicing law and writing at the same time. "The alarm clock would go off at five, and I would jump in the shower. My office was five minutes away. And I had to be at my desk, at my office, with the first cup of coffee, a legal pad, and write the first word at 5:30, five days a week." Sometimes that one page would take ten minutes, sometimes an hour; often he would write for two hours before he had to turn to his job a lawyer, which he never especially enjoyed.

Sticking to a schedule and maintaining loyalty to ideas is hard. Execution is rarely comfortable or convenient... Developing a consistent daily regimen for execution can help us make ideas happen." Belsky, Making Ideas Happen, p. 98 -102.

In simplest terms, an MRT is

• two or more people
• with a passion to help birth vibrant families of Jesus
• in a particular city or region
• who are relentlessly seeking to live into a specific set of spiritual practices
• and who are in community with other MRTs committed to the same practices

(The MRT practices for the summer of 2010 are spelled out in the MRT Invitation. Let me know if you need another copy.)

In the area of writing, my practice or regimen is to post to this blog post five days a week. How about for you? Do you have any practices in the area of writing you could share with us?

John

Spiritual research (2)

More from Carolyn Spence's email...

Is there a reason that this "present kingdom" model doesn't seem to be promoted among simple church proponents? If we are truly following where God is going, would he not be working some of the same things today that he did then? Should this not be a part of our expectation and our report?

Absolutely! In fact, the listening (Virkler) part of a CO2 puts us in a place where we can join God in his supernatural work just as Jesus did. See Jn. 5:19.

Shouldn't this be one evidence of a vibrant family of Jesus? Shouldn't his presence among us produce an effect that ministers to people in the same ways he did when he was here? It seems that we do get from the Lord what we seek after, and what we expect. Can we share stories of how we see the kingdom come to encourage each other that this is a part of the normal Christian life? Now I am newer to the MRT, and maybe I am off base, or it’s a topic already covered that I have missed... so please excuse me if it is. Tell me what you think. Carolyn

Carolyn, you are totally "on base". The MRT 2.0 Experiment is designed to provide a basic framework or starting point for spiritual research. My hope is that this spirit of questioning and experimenting will characterize our community and that people will experiment with all kinds of things having to do with helping to birth "vibrant families of Jesus". Carolyn, please take the lead in reporting what you are learning this summer about demonstrations of God's power as it relates to church planting.

Speaking of God's supernatural power, take a look at the story below of healing at our city wide house church gathering in Denver a couple of weeks ago.

John

Spiritual research (1)

Carolyn Spence (Clovis, NM) sent me an email this week that embodies the spirit of the MRT Experiments that we will be undertaking this summer. Here's the first part of what she said with a few of my comments...

I was going back over the mail on MRT's to read what I may have missed. Now I have a question. It may be that there are things yet to be discovered and implemented among CO2 and CO 12s and simple church groups, that would make a difference, but there seems to be something missing in the message.

Right on, Carolyn! There are things "yet to be discovered and implemented". That's the premise of the MRT Experiments - we have a lot to learn and we have a Father who delights in us trying things out. And, we often learn best in the context of community - a "community of practice"!

When Jesus announced that the kingdom of God was among them, the message was either preceded or followed by a demonstration of the presence of God, and the rulership of God as found in his kingdom, shown by something, and event or occurrence, that superseded natural expectations. As we become "families of Jesus", it would seem right to expect that the same principle of the evidence of the kingdom of God should be seen among them. This should be "normal" for families of Jesus.

I agree with you. That's what Jesus said in Lk. 10:9. "Heal the sick and say to them, "The kingdom of God has come near to you." " Paul says much the same thing in 1 Cor. 2:4. "...my message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstrations of the Spirit and of power..."

Carolyn, thanks for raising the issue! At the heart of spiritual research is the practice of relentlessly asking questions. More tomorrow on this.

John

Mad Scientists

Tomorrow I'll introduce the second of three innovations we will be working on this summer in our MRT Experiment (2.0). But, today I felt led to say a word about the mindset necessary to be a part of these Experiments. (There's a reason I call them Experiments!)

The Luke Ten Community in general and the MRT Experiments in particular are about innovation. They aren't for everyone. This is a place for curious people. For risk takers. For passionate dreamers. (Mad scientists?!) For people who have a feeling in their gut that God must have more in mind for the Church (His Bride!) than we have often experienced in traditional church. For people who want to hang out with and learn from (and teach) others on a similar journey.

This is a place for people who see God as a wise Father who encourages His kids to try things out, to explore, to experiment. And, to pay close attention to what they learn in the process. A Father who doesn't freak out at failure. In fact, who believes you sometimes learn more from your failures than from your successes. A Father who is easy to please but hard to satisfy. (Thank you, C. S. Lewis!)

Some examples of hypotheses we are experimenting with...

*Listening to God results in more and better mission than trying to be missional

*The marriage (and then the family) is the first and most foundational expression of church

*A house church comprised of multiple CO2s is more vibrant than one that isn't

*Doing SASHET with an individual or a group over time leads to deep, heart level connections

*CO2s and MRTs are viral and will multiply spontaneously

*CO2s are an effective discipleship tool to at least four generations

*It is desirable and possible to plant a million new vibrant families of Jesus in the US (fill in your country)

Any hypotheses you would like to suggest?

So, that's the kind of people we're looking for. Apostolic pioneers. Students of transformation and multiplication. Passionate practitioners. Mad scientists. Interested?

John

First new element: Cohort(s)

A big "thank you" to all of you for your comments about the "bright spots" from our MRT Experiment (1.0)!

Our sense is that the Lord is directing us to do an MRT Experiment (2.0) this summer. In addition to the specific practices that were a part of MRT (1.0), there are three new elements that we will experiment with this summer. I want to introduce them to you one at a time and get your comments.

First new element: cohorts. co·hort (kō'hôrt') n. 1. A group or band of people.

There are a growing number of people who are interested in being part of an MRT Experiment. That's a good thing! However, as the numbers increase, it becomes increasingly difficult for there to be a sense of community - there are just too many people to relate to.

So, this summer we are going to experiment with two cohorts. Each cohort will be limited to no more than 12 regional teams (MRTs). Twelve groups who are willing to commit to the spiritual practices of the MRT Community for three months. I will lead one cohort and everyone who has been part of MRT 1.0 will be invited to join (before we invite new people - if there is room). Hobby Chapin will lead the second cohort which will mostly be made up of other church planters that he is already coaching (although anyone from MRT (1.0) can also join Hobby).

Depending on how this summer Experiment goes, we see the possibility some of you leading cohorts in the fall if it's something you feel led to. (Let me know if this is something you are interested in.) This is a way that the movement can continue to expand in a viral manner.

So, let's take a couple of days on the idea of cohorts. What's your initial response? What questions come to mind? Click on "comments" below and share your perspective.

John

"How can we do more of it?" (2)

I know yesterday's post was really long. I thank you for your patience on this.

However, what you were reading was the Community speaking. And, I think that's important to pay attention to. So, what are you hearing as the Community speaks? What's your sense of what the Lord is saying to us through this?

Click on "comments" below and share your thoughts.

Thanks for taking time on this.

John

"How can we do more of it?"

Responding to this post will take a little longer. So, give me 5 minutes today and 5 tomorrow.

Remember the quote from the book a couple of days ago? (I recommend the book, by the way: Switch: How to Change Things When Change is Hard)

Here's the quote: Find the Bright Spots! To pursue bright spots is to ask the question "What's working, and how can we do more of it?"

Our variation of that might be - What do we see God doing and how does He wants to build on that?

So, below I've compiled and arranged the bright spots you all identified with our MRT Experiment. Today, I would just like you to read over the list. See what the Lord says to you about it and tomorrow give us your comments.

So, just read today.

John

Bright Spots from the MRT Experiment

Mission from listening. It (MRT) has helped me to focus together with another local person (Sean) on how we can best take mission forward in our area. There's a tendency to 'drift' in life - manana! But meeting weekly helps to avoid this. Listening together and sharing what we hear is very valuable. It informs our thinking and our conversations with others.

-Chris UK)

A bright spot for me as a part of the Denver MRT has been to listen to God together for the whole city. I feel like I am a part of a band of brothers with a common vision. All of us care deeply about Denver desire to see transformation occur through vibrant families of Jesus within easy access of everyone. –Hugh (Denver)

Both Jorge and I were drawn more toward our community of practice's common baseline - intimacy with God, listening to him and each other, and having that be the step that moves us into mission. It translates a way of seeing into practice. We are "sasheting" all the time now, checking the heart, intentionally watching our lives to ask and notice what God is doing. –James (Mexico City)

Hi John just quick note to let you know Chris and I discussed the experiment last night. I am sure Chris' notes will be better but our general consensus was that hearing the stories helped us to connect and be encouraged. There was confirmation that what we had been doing with CO2 , specifically listening to God, draws towards mission. It has facilitated us to focus our thoughts towards mission by bringing us together for this purpose so we meet up twice a week now with the second meeting with mission specifically in mind (at least that's the intention). We agree that we should continue this beyond the experiment unless we are lead in a different direction, we believe strongly that we must continuously be listening and not to continue out of habit. –Sean (UK)

Community (“I’m not alone). 2 - It has been wonderfully encouraging to have this blog available. Every time I have visited I have read, seen, and heard good stuff from the rest of you. I think that every single one who has commented has helped me in one way or another. You have been inspirational companions on the journey. Thank you all!

I echo Peg's comment recently. Even if the experiment ends (and I hope it won't) Sean and I are likely to continue with the weekly sessions.

-Chris (UK)

I like knowing there are many others in the same boat I am as far as working with and training other church planters. I enjoy the challenge of hearing your stories, and pressing into God on things I need to do here. I'm one of the few church planters here in NM with a vision for the 'bigger picture' of the region, so the conversations I see hear are a great encouragement. –Peg (Albuquerque)

(Local MRT) Because we connected at the heart level, I've really appreciated the deep fellowship we share. We're intimately connected with each other, praying for one another, and have a feeling of being "in it together" like the missionary pairs and teams in scripture. –Marty (Denver)

(Local MRT) Second, these people have become friends through whom I can hear God speak to me and all of us. Corporate listening is a miracle I can't stop marveling over. –Hugh (Denver)

(Local MRT) Hugh, I really like your point about corporate listening. Thanks for making it. I agree, listening together is special - much, much better than listening alone. –Chris (UK)

(Local MRT) I think the MRT Experiment has been fantastic. The best part of it is daily walking with brothers and sisters in Christ to listen and obey the Spirit. One of the things we must combat in our culture is compartmentalizing our lives. We have found the CO2’s to be a great way of crossing this barrier and helping people stay connected with each other and their King. This is something we were lacking by only meeting together a couple times a week for simple church or LTG’s. We still encourage reading lots of scripture reading and have noticed that our CO2’s spend a good amount of time talking through the scriptures being read from the LTGs. Lee (Colorado – Western Slope)

I liked that this community of practice was happening worldwide - sharing insights, connecting pockets of experience/expertise, and connecting maybe somewhat isolated practioners. 
-James (Mexico City)

Helped my local MRT. This MRT Community has played an exemplary role to MRTs in which I participate. It is easy to replicate striving groups. –EEM (Houston, then Russia)

The bright spots for me have been hearing the stories of other MRT's and what type of things have come out of their time together - what kind of things they have been hearing together and what actions have resulted. These things help our MRT to know whether we are on the right track or not and to learn (even indirectly) how to better do it ourselves. –Artman (Denver)

Viral. So where next with MRT? Well, we'll see! I hope it will grow and spread rather as CO2 is doing. In fact I think there's evidence that's already happening. It wasn't too hard for John to find a few extra MRTs along the way. –Chris (UK)

the biggest bright spot for me is:
simplicity.
basing mrts around the same principles that we base co2s on:
1. connecting on a heart level
2. listening to the Lord

if we are going to see a movement of transformation it has to start small and spread and with these two simple principles we can see new believers learn to hear their own hearts, each other's hearts and the Lord and then get a heart for a city and develop into leaders in a region who ask the Lord what He has to say to them about their cities as well.
i guess what i'm saying is:
co2s can birth both organic churches and mrts that help resource and provide leadership and empowerment for whole regions while all being based on 2 simple principles.
now that sounds like something that can spread virally. –Desi (Denver)

I agree with most everything else that has been said here. I think a bright spot has been noticing how simple and transferable this posture and these practices are. I love that our participation with God doesn't have to be complicated! -Chadd (Guadalajara)

(I wrote to EEM saying that I was looking forward to seeing how the MRT concept might work in Russia.) His response…. Truly, what you and others have done with MRT experiment here makes its implementation in other places much easier.

Training/learning. Not everyone knows what leadership based on listening to God looks like…. The MRT Experiment has been extremely valuable to me as an alternative form of leadership. For me, it is a clear example of ministry flowing out of listening to God… Most valuable was input from more mature people and questions from fellow MRTers… Every post had valuable information in it. Among most recent ones, the post about the nature of CO2 was very helpful. –EEM (Houston, then Russia)

It's also a place I can bring my questions and concerns to others for their suggestions. –Peg (Albuquerque)

I'm finding the things I've learned in the MRT context are CRITICAL to true and lasting regional networking. (Contrasts with “man-oriented networking”) MRT is about putting GOD in the center and regional workers, who are already in relationship, gather around and LISTEN to HIM and share their HEARTS (not their accomplishments). …
By employing disciplines that get us out of OUR heads and into GODS heart, we can triumph over all of the things that divide us and focus on our common desire to see God glorified and His Kingdom spread throughout the planet!

I believe this is KEY to the forward motion of the gospel in our world. Noah (New Zealand)

Thanks to listening to Jesus, mission has flowed from that. We've heard from God several times on exactly where we're supposed to go to find good soil, share the gospel, and even reap a harvest at times. It's been a real paradigm shift to listen and do rather than strategize. –Marty

I stay on the run, and my blackberry doesn't allow me to post comments, so sorry, but I read each post, and discussed our learning each week with Jorge in our weekly MRT. 1. The intentional and systematic shared learning is significant. As community practitioners (each one of us) and operational team members (in many different contexts), we created learning loops. In other words, what I was reading and learning from you, I shared with others in my circle of influence. This intentional knowledge/experience sharing and listening was something that is very helpful - I think it will carry over into how we are moving in mission. (I think someone said the other day that it is like we are sharing a community journal).

Should this continue? Even if the experiment ends (and I hope it won't) Sean and I are likely to continue with the weekly sessions.

-Chris (UK)

I do not see this experiment ending any time soon. –EEM (Houston, then Russia)

Hopefully this will continue. –Peg (Albuquerque)

We have not added the weekly/bi-weekly MRT meetings to this point. We have monthly network leadership meetings that function somewhat like this, but not in the purest form of what you have recommended. I would be willing to try this if you do another MRT experiment. –Lee (Western Slope of Colorado)

Bright Spots (2)

Let's stay on this topic of "bright spots" from our MRT Experiment. (See yesterday's post) We need to hear from as many of you as possible. Our goal is to be able to identify what is "working" and build on that.

If you haven't commented yet on this, please do so.

If you have commented, take a look at the other comments and see if that sparks any new thoughts.

Thanks!

John

What are the "bright spots"?

Find the Bright Spots

That's the title of a chapter from the book Switch: How to Change Things When Change is Hard. Here's a quote from that chapter:

To pursue bright spots is to ask the question "What's working, and how can we do more of it?"

As we think together about where we go from here with our MRT Experiment, that's the question I would like you to comment on. What have been the "bright spots" for you? What has been helpful to you as a church planter? What's "working" for you in the MRT Experiment?

Click on "Comments" below and give us your response.

John

Guadalajara MRT

As an apostolic "Community of Practice", we can learn a lot from other MRTs. Below is Chadd Schroeder's description of one of their recent meetings. What seems important to you in this picture?

We had our Guadalajara MRT gathering this past Tuesday morning; we try to do this every two weeks. Gerardo, Nancy and I met around our table. Tim and Kim Rush joined us through a Skype connection on my laptop computer (they are on furlough for a couple of months more in Tulsa). Cory was traveling that day and unable to join us. As usual, we began checking in with each other allowing each to describe the state of our heart that morning. Then, the rest of our time was used to pray and listen together around our common translocal mission to those in our region.

These times seem to be really good for us! At least two important things regularly happen. We connect with each other’s heart and have an outlet to describe what is really happening there knowing we are being heard by people who care about what is there and who can handle hearing it. And, we intentionally listen to God together—are getting more precious experience in doing this together.

I’ve been taking notes of the themes that God seems to be raising in the conversation, but I think God is nudging me (us) to be more intentional in taking this one step further and to perhaps explicitly name what we think God is saying each time. I desire to notice the direction of this ongoing conversation as well—to at least give God an opportunity to build on what is being said over time.

I also like that we are discovering a way to stay connected with God and one another this way even at a time when we are separated geographically. I believe the long term fruit of this practice will be huge!

Go to "Comments" below and post your observations on Chadd's email.

John

Being "a community of practice"

This comment from Peg Batcheller is a great picture of our MRT Experiment functioning as a "community of practice". In this case, Peg in New Mexico is learning from Hobby Chapin in north Denver (see yesterday's post). I love it!

Hobby,

Thanks for this great description of what you guys are doing. I'm invited to meet with a group of women leaders in Clovis, NM, this weekend, and I was praying about what to share with them. There are about 7-10 women who are hungry to get something started there, with lots of passion but have little direction. Your post about your new MRT gives definition to what I need to share, so this is very timely. I ask you all to pray with me that God will move in an amazing way to raise up many CO2s and simple churches in the NE area of New Mexico and into Texas.

Peg

We'll be praying for you Peg. Let us know how it goes.

John